Keith’s Blog: Fakes and Awards, Continued

Last week we talked about the 25th annual Collector Car and Boat Show in Lake Oswego, OR. There were 200 cars and boats and 5,000 spectators.

Best Open Car was awarded to a beautifully presented Beck Spyder. That’s a replica of a Porsche 550. And I’ve heard they drive beautifully.

I asked your opinion about a non-authentic car winning a top award and got many responses.

If I boil them down, the consensus seemed to be that at regional shows, a class should be created for replicas. It could have a fancy name like Tribute Cars, Continuation Cars or Homage Cars – those all seem a little classier than “fake.” Maybe have a “C” or something on the car card that identifies them, and put them in the running for the awards.

Should a replica get a top prize, then the announcer can simply say, “The top open car is from the Replica Class, a Beck Spyder.”

Top concours don’t have this issue, as they have plenty of authentic entries to choose from.

But at a regional concours, where you are just out for a pleasant afternoon, why not allow spectators to see “homage” Ferrari GTOs or Pur Sang Bugattis or — oh no, not that — plastic Cobras. So long as the owner represents them properly, and the judges look at the cars appropriately, why not? 

At the Lake Oswego show, there was an appealingly shabby original 289 Cobra and a super-shiny replica of some sort. I enjoyed them both and got to go from one to the other looking at the similarities and differences.

Let’s continue this discussion. Should we encourage regional concours to have replicas entered, and should they be eligible for the top prizes?

I look forward to your responses in the comments below.

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17 responses to “Keith’s Blog: Fakes and Awards, Continued”

  1. Dave Wargo Avatar

    I am the care taker of a Contemporary Classic Shelby 427 Cobra. It does have a genuine Shelby 427 complete with its own CSX number and I dare say with the tweaks I’ve added, runs better than the original. Of course it’s not worth the price of an original, so there’s that…..

    1. Alex Dearborn Avatar

      Why not allow all replicas to be where the organizers want. BUT: Call a Beck Spyder a BECK not a Porsche. Don’t judge it if it says Porsche on it. Tha’t’s a fakey-do. An Intermeccanica Roadster is a wonderful car, but please dont call it a 1959 Porsche 356. Alex Dearborn

  2. GERALD L. IAGULLI Avatar

    Some of the Cobra and Porche Spyder replicas are old enough to be considered classics themselves so having a separate class for them makes sense. Some are truly works of art, such as the aforementioned Beck Spyder or the Ferrari 288 GTO clone being built by Dave Kindig. Often the “clones” are far better than the original cars with more power and better braking.

  3. jack malacarne Avatar

    Reminded me of the old saw about C-TypeJaguars ” Of the 56 that were originally manufactured there are only about 200 left”

    1. Glenn Krasner Avatar

      I think this is also a prevalent thing with Oldsmobile 442s and Pontiac GTOs. There seems to be a helluva lot more in the classic car marketplace than actually left the factory!

  4. David Peterson Avatar

    No. In no way should a replica be credited with the gravitas of any original car. Considering what I see spent, I always wonder why didn’t the owner elect to purchase the real thing. When I was a boy, I couldn’t understand my Father’s penchant for crawling through old dealerships attics and wreckers back lot in search of a Cad/LaSalle transmission or some bizarre molding or wheel. One is earned and one is purchased. The individual decides, and I vote thumb down.

  5. Leslie A Roberts Avatar

    I absolutely want to know when what I’m looking at is a tribute or recreation. Does it need to be in a separate class? Sure, why not. It’s only words on paper, right?

  6. Dave Schwartz Avatar

    I agree with the creation of a class for replica vehicles. They are worthy of respect and appreciation but are different from a true original. This class should include a judging criteria for how authentic the replica is.

  7. Frank Barrett Avatar

    A question that nobody has asked is, “Why did the judges do this?” For me, as a judge, a car’s provenance and story are important .

  8. Rand Wintermute Avatar

    To All, who responded or wish to respond to Keith’s question, commentaries should always keep in mind the
    “Judging Parameters”, in this case , the LO classification “Best of Show” was largely based on “Popularity” amongst
    the “Voting”, in this case all the attendess of the LO Car show. As the winner of that trophy and the owner of the subject Beck 550 Spyder,
    I fully concur that the LO Committee, (of which I was an original member when the show first started), has the option to change
    their Judging parameters for this particular “Car Show”. Please keep in mind that this trophy awarded to my 550 Spyder was based on
    the “Popular” vote for the most POPULAR “Topless imported” car, at the show; please be it known that my 550 was BUILT in Brazil in 2003,
    prior to Beck re-establishing their Build Factory to Indiana, where they are located now. Thus , an imported car. Regardless, all points are well taken,
    and Keith raised an interesting point to discuss, and perhaps the LO Car show Committee will add another , or more, Judging category (s) to the annual
    LO Car show. for all who love the historic Porsche 550 Spyder, my 550 will be on display for the month of November at the new Porsche Design Studio in “the Pearl”. Come and see this “Iconic” Porsche 550 replica, and have a free “Latte” !

    1. Steve Hunker Avatar

      I’d have to agree with you here. This was a popular vote. No harm…no foul. We all know the chances that we do see a real AC Cobra or Porsche 550 are slim. If it was represented as a “Porsche” in a Porsche catagory…expect some harsh criticism. I won a 1st Place People’s Choice at the British Field Meet for my Lotus this weekend. Had a Caterham or a similar kit 7 have won…issue? Not certain.
      In this case, at the end of the day, the people spoke and you were the winner! Congrats!

  9. Hans Kleinknecht Avatar

    I guess I’m going to be in the minority here, but if you are having a car show, any car should be welcome IMO. Just state what it is and let the cars be just that, cars at a show. If people and judges like them, so be it. They are just used cars at the end of the day for both owners and others to enjoy.

  10. Juergen Schuetze Avatar

    I have to agree with Rand. The annual LO show was never intended to be a Concours D’elegance event, meeting international judging standards and vehicle categories. But rather as a walk in the park with popularity voting. The cutest car won the BIG one, nobody asked, or cared about, where & when it was built.

  11. Laurence anderson Avatar

    Copycars (whatever you choose to call them) belong in the same category as “Artificial Intellegence Art”
    CLEARLY MARKED that the original may be discerned by the viewer.
    The use of the word “Replica” is objectionable despite the common current usage, it formerly was used exclusively by Original Manufacturers to indicate a replica of a specific model, such as a Jaguar XK-120

  12. Dennis Garbacik Avatar

    Why are there even awards given at car shows like that. Who cares? Show your car, enjoy the conversations with people who are interested in it and drive home with a smile on your face.

  13. James Martin. ( no relation 😁) Avatar

    CLONES, was the term I recall. Tributes seems less antagonize yet it was demonstrating a car without the clear vision of the original designer or builder. The first owner of such a car knows its not “original”. But that is lost on the third or fourth owner.
    I accept makers of such cars are mechanically more perfect, but they ought not be judged on same area as the originals. Isn’t this the same argument of transgender in WNBA.😉

  14. Gary Avatar

    I like “Homage Class” as it would compliment your wine and fromage as you peruse the offerings.

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